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SoundMasterLuku
11-11-2004, 01:38 AM
What do you think is the best battle
FO??? Please help....

Gotien
11-11-2004, 01:43 AM
...battle FO i guess i have to say at high lvl its the FOmar but at lower lvls its either FOnewman(sp?) or FOnewmarl(sp?) IMO but im no expert on FO's

Spidy
11-11-2004, 02:01 AM
for me, I'd say FOmar at a high level, and FOnewm at a lower one.

Gotien
11-11-2004, 02:06 AM
follower number 1! lol

SoundMasterLuku
11-11-2004, 02:45 AM
Thank you I guess I made the right choice but it doesnt hurt to check thanx abunch both of you.

flickynick
12-11-2004, 06:15 PM
FOmar suck at lower levels bt are good with high level s/d and weapons with hit %, i havent played with a newm so i cant be follower number 2

Spidy
13-11-2004, 07:43 AM
I'm also told that FOmars come in handy online, because of the upped s&d,...or am I getting this completely wrong?

Gotien
13-11-2004, 07:49 AM
no you're correct the FOmar class has increased Deband and Shifta abilities however you cant tell the difference till higher lvls so online doesnt matter unless you have made your FOmar formidable on his own

cHiLLaR
13-11-2004, 01:41 PM
no you're correct the FOmar class has increased Deband and Shifta abilities however you cant tell the difference till higher lvls so online doesnt matter unless you have made your FOmar formidable on his own
where did you get this bull****? Only the Range will be increase so every FO have the some boost if they got lvl 30 techs ~~

Hrith
13-11-2004, 02:15 PM
Yes, indeed, and the best melee FOs are FOmar and FOmarl (if you can stand the awful animations of FOmarl, she's actually got better stats, but her animations plainly suck)

I say FOmar, but find a lot of hit%

Gynn Rei
13-11-2004, 07:44 PM
FOmarl is the best support melee FOrce and FOmar is the best tech spamming melee FOrce... I can't say FOnewm is all that on melee skills.

Hrith
13-11-2004, 08:37 PM
FOnewearl is better than FOmarl as a supporter, and FOnewm is a decent meleer.

Gynn Rei
14-11-2004, 09:19 AM
But still, FOmar and FOmarl are better... How come is the FOnewearl a better supporter. FOmarl has increased range on Shifta, Deband, Resta and Anti.

Gotien
14-11-2004, 09:28 AM
...meaning that if your friends are farther away that you could reach them faster... i dont think that's all that cool IMO but FOmars are definetly preformers in my book, my FOmar is amazingly strong and i havent found another FO of any class around my lvl that does better

cHiLLaR
14-11-2004, 01:33 PM
But still, FOmar and FOmarl are better... How come is the FOnewearl a better supporter. FOmarl has increased range on Shifta, Deband, Resta and Anti.
Shifta deband range isnt that important...
And a Foney got also a double Resta range... and she got more mst so their resta is alot better then a fomarls one ;)

Gotien
14-11-2004, 01:41 PM
now that seems like it'd be more useful in battle im gonna have to go with his choice

Gynn Rei
14-11-2004, 02:02 PM
hmmm yes, she has more MST... I still think S/D are aspects that a support FOrce needs.

cHiLLaR
14-11-2004, 02:07 PM
you dont need to cast s/d as often as resta ;)
So a good Resta would be more important^^

Gotien
14-11-2004, 02:17 PM
yea but on the other hand with a better shifta/deband you do more damage and take less damage so it could also help just as easily, not to mention that high lvls of it only need to be cast once ever few mins

cHiLLaR
14-11-2004, 02:20 PM
yea but on the other hand with a better shifta/deband you do more damage and take less damage so it could also help just as easily, not to mention that high lvls of it only need to be cast once ever few mins
Every Force do the same s/d... fomarls only got a double range... nothing more!!! theyr s/d wont boost more dfp or atp...

Gotien
14-11-2004, 02:24 PM
oh then yea the better resta would help a great deal more, my bad:P

Gynn Rei
14-11-2004, 09:11 PM
FOmar gets a boost on range too.

flickynick
15-11-2004, 08:23 AM
FOmar is the only one who gets range on shifta, he gets it on deband aswell, i think he gets it on another but not sure

Gotien
15-11-2004, 08:46 AM
but if that's all then it doesnt matter, the increased MST and resta heal is the best

Gynn Rei
15-11-2004, 03:35 PM
Again!

FOmarl gets range boost on Anti, Resta, Shifta and Deband. 1.5 boost on Grants. (max MST 1284)

FOnewearl gets range boost on Anti and Resta. 1.3 boost on the basic techniques. (max MST 1750)

FOmar gets range boost on Shifta and Deband. 1.3 boost on the Gi-techniques. (max MST 1340) Edit: and 1.3 boost on Grants.

FOnewm has got a 1.3 boost on the Gi- and Ra-techniques. (max MST 1500)

This is all, there's nothing more special on the FOrces other than the TP regeneration ability of the Newmans.

flickynick
15-11-2004, 05:32 PM
FOmarl doesn't get the shifta boost, and as you said Again you probably said that to some innocent kid, and now they're telling more people so more people think that they get shifta boost, when they don't :P

Gynn Rei
15-11-2004, 10:40 PM
They do... and if they didn't they would just be a stupid weak version of the FOnewearl.

Gotien
15-11-2004, 10:53 PM
if you are right Gynn Rei then the boost for basic techs that the FOnewearl gets means that resta gets a boost thus proving this whole thing we've been talking about... we arent saying you're wrong but you seem to be contradicting yourself..

Hrith
15-11-2004, 11:59 PM
You forgot 1.3 boost to Grants on FOmar >_>

Gotien
16-11-2004, 12:17 AM
lol we wont hold it against you:P besides you've corrected us enough times anyways:D

Gynn Rei
16-11-2004, 05:49 PM
Where the heck did you get the idea that I'm contradicting myself. I said FOmarls are the best support FOrces because they have boosts to all support techs. That is my opinion, stop bugging me and do some research. I have checked if the FOmarl really does have a boost... and she does. Checked it out with a RAmar with lvl 15 Deband and my FOmarl with lvl 15 Deband.

DarkMagician
29-11-2004, 03:02 PM
FOmar is best... how many times have I said that now...?

NetNomad
29-11-2004, 06:51 PM
I only have one Force, but he's a decent meleer (a FOnewm). Carries a Hildebear's Cane and a Double Saber, among other things... I usually alternate between those two weapons, using the DS to get my TP back (I rarely have to use fluids at all :D ).

Heinan
29-11-2004, 08:24 PM
The question isnt whos the best melee FO, but which melee FO fits your style the best IMO:

FOmarls are the battle mage version of FOneys. They have native range increases to all support techs and they have the best ATP/ATA ratios out of the Force class. Not to mention that they have the best HP growth between the 4 forces. The only thing that makes this class ignorable is the horrible attack animations they have, and having the lowest MST out of the 4 forces.

FOmars to me are jacked up HUmars with lvl 30 techs. They can deal an incredible amount of damage with weapons as can cast fairly well. As for support, slap on Resta Merge and you become a FOmarl without the Anti range increase. Thier ATP/ATA ratio is not that good mind you, so youll need weaps w/hit in order to use thier awesome ATP to its maximum potential.

DarkMagician
30-11-2004, 04:11 PM
True...ATA can only become 160 natural... Or was it lower? I forget...

flickynick
30-11-2004, 04:49 PM
Fomar base is 138 and max is 163, if that is what you meant

DarkMagician
01-12-2004, 10:32 AM
Perhaps...though the max base ATA is 160, of that I am pretty certain...

Lance813
28-12-2004, 04:29 PM
ok FOmars kik ass i personally would say FOmars are the best battle force

ohh the agito has a really good hit but no special damage other monsters tho
i like the agito lol :P
(P.S)can FOmars use the Nicca twin? just wonderin? :P

DarkMagician
18-01-2005, 04:34 PM
Alright, we have established FOmar how you say, "Owns all".

End of thread.

Disagree with FOmar being the best? Tell Sheik, I DARE YOU! MWUHAHAH!

C.O
18-01-2005, 08:34 PM
Disagree with FOmar being the best? Tell Sheik, I DARE YOU! MWUHAHAH!
Neh. I agree. And Shiek is teh nice, no need to challenge him^_^

Teh EkwEE
21-01-2005, 12:00 AM
I tend to disagree with DM on this subject;) . A FO is measured by how useful they are to a team, and as regards to the melee subject then it would be FOmarl. :D

1) She has a higher ATA max, only 7 mind you but still higher.
2)She has higher defense. By a lot in comparison
3) The larger support tech range means she can be in the fray while still being to help her party from far off
4)More hp means less likely to die. If the FO dies then its up to the rest of the team to fend for themselves until we can be revived. Dying is something a FO and their team cannot afford to do.
5)You keep bringing up the issue of damage but I gladly up the 160 damage per combo in order to be able to hit the enemy an extra time.On this issue Pomeha(who inspired me to start my FOmarl) can do 600+ damage with her S-rank double saber on ult. CCA(with a heavy hit of course) So in a double saber combo that's 300,300.....600.....600,600,600. She does this damage at lv.166 and my FOmarl being lv.82 can do at least 700+ plus damage on ult. Forest. Damage is not an issue for her.;)


If this were single player then hands down go with the FOmar but I prefer the FOmarl for versatility,and usefulness to a team. All things considered she has very bad animations for most of her usable wepons. Double Sabers, Slicers, Inferno Bazooka and a few other wepon types all you can depend on but if you're meleeing you don't really need much more. And S/D and J/Z help her out more than the FOmar IMHO.;) :cool:

Hrith
21-01-2005, 11:01 PM
But his is a topic about BATTLE FO, and FOmarl's animations are so bad and unefficient that she phails at being a good melee FO.

Teh EkwEE
22-01-2005, 01:28 AM
Right, like I said if they have a double saber there's not much more you need. Her partisan animation is a bit slower than the males' also. But all that means is a slower last hit and a subsequent counter attack. Which with S/D means you get hit and take a step back, that's all. If he goes with single player,then, as I said, by all means choose a FOmar. But if he plans on playing with a team then use a FOmarl.

Heres a link to gamefaqs for more on the FOmar, FOmarl debate....

Hrith
22-01-2005, 01:12 PM
You noticed in my sig that my FOmarl is Lv 181 and my FOmar 147, right ?

FOmar can be good online, of course, FOmarl is a better support char than he is, but heck, I've met good support FOnewms !

Uber Ninja
24-01-2005, 08:11 PM
FOmarl all the way!! ^^ The animation is definetly not very adaquate (overstatement of the year) but her stats kick compared to the other FO's! The Fomar's 2x shifta/deband is awesome, but I don't think it makes up for his stats!

masterofchaos
24-01-2005, 08:25 PM
FOmarl all the way!! ^^ The animation is definetly not very adaquate (overstatement of the year) but her stats kick compared to the other FO's! The Fomar's 2x shifta/deband is awesome, but I don't think it makes up for his stats!
fomarls get the double range to and they get it for resta and anti to

DarkMagician
25-01-2005, 01:22 PM
Bah! You lot just like watching them with leering eyes, kyaahahahah!

FOmar defeats all!

Poo Fly
25-01-2005, 01:41 PM
i'm with DM, FOmars are the better battle force

Lance813
27-01-2005, 02:23 AM
ne one who dosent agree wit da FOmar
1.they can be hung and megid to death yay
2.then brought to life and.................. repeat step 1 yayer :P

DarkMagician
31-01-2005, 02:17 PM
I like that idea! *Sets up a gallows* Let's hang 'em by the bal--Oh wait, I thought I heard a mod walk by...

Lance813
31-01-2005, 11:15 PM
* gasp * oh no DM their gunna get us
RUN is it safe?

Judgment
31-01-2005, 11:33 PM
Its never safe hen DM is involved

Lance813
01-02-2005, 03:36 PM
it is true
Run DM Run the govenment is here

Teh EkwEE
04-02-2005, 09:15 PM
You digress. This is not a topic about DM and the governments ongoing secret war.

I was giving a rough estimation in my previous post about 700+ damage in Forest Ult. That is without S/D. With S/D and the enemies J/Z I can roughly do around 1,300 damage. ;) :D As soon as I can use my Caduceus with mi FOmarl I will rule all with teh Grants nuker. The one redeeming factor that I can give FOmars in light that I like FOmarls more, is that they have a very effecient and very cool looking rod animation which I wish the FOmarl could have or a better one; because FOmarls do have so many craptastic animations.:'( :'( :'(

Lance813
05-02-2005, 01:14 AM
im lost :(

masterofchaos
07-02-2005, 08:15 PM
personally i would chose fomar i love them i have now and they are so awsome there on my list of faviriote chars.

DarkMagician
10-02-2005, 10:40 AM
Godamnit you lot! Enough about FOmarls! Christ! FOmar is better! I swear! The only way for this thread to get more one-sided is if Mirinee joined in...

masterofchaos
10-02-2005, 05:42 PM
Godamnit you lot! Enough about FOmarls! Christ! FOmar is better! I swear! The only way for this thread to get more one-sided is if Mirinee joined in...
i did say fomar dm it is because there supier

Poo Fly
11-02-2005, 09:44 AM
because FOmarls do have so many craptastic animations.:'( :'( :'(


yep, my favourites the handgun one, looks like she's hitting herself if the head because of the recoil! :D

Mirinee
11-02-2005, 02:21 PM
FOmar, of course. Everything that needed to be said had already been said on the first page.

Craptastic, yes, but it would've been alright if it weren't so slooowww. The only one that looks okay is the mechgun spell-casting animation.

Poo Fly is spot on. The back of the gun misses the forehead by centimetres. Mirinee demonstates this:

Lance813
18-02-2005, 04:48 PM
heh tht would hurt tho gettin hit in teh 4head wit a gun

Fabo Craven
21-02-2005, 05:15 AM
The best Meele force would either be the FOmar of FOmarl. The FOmar has greater ATP and The FOmarl has greater ATA The newman forces are horrid at meele combat, dont even try to use them at higher levels

DarkMagician
21-02-2005, 10:15 AM
FOmar, of course. Everything that needed to be said had already been said on the first page.

Craptastic, yes, but it would've been alright if it weren't so slooowww. The only one that looks okay is the mechgun spell-casting animation.

Poo Fly is spot on. The back of the gun misses the forehead by centimetres. Mirinee demonstates this:

Oh no! She's here! fortunately, Mirinee seems to be more fond of FOmar. Good. I'll let her live! for now, mwuahahahah!

A.S.
27-02-2005, 06:47 AM
One question about Range for Merge, as someone mentioned prior to this page, it increases the distance not the power of the magic?

Mirinee
28-02-2005, 12:36 AM
Yes, it's range only.

Oh no! She's here! fortunately, Mirinee seems to be more fond of FOmar. Good. I'll let her live! for now, mwuahahahah! Fortunately, I will also let you live since you are also fond of FOmar, you evil, evil FOmar.

Lance813
28-02-2005, 02:44 AM
Tee Hee FOmar sk00lz all other Forces o yea :D

A.S.
28-02-2005, 03:13 AM
In my opinions FOmar are terrible, thats why as a joke I told my friend to start a FOmar (with a Skyly, that was actually the big part of the joke).

Lance813
01-03-2005, 06:44 PM
In my opinions FOmar are terrible, thats why as a joke I told my friend to start a FOmar (with a Skyly, that was actually the big part of the joke).
u terible terible person........ :P ......ok DM get teh noose